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henry余

原帖由 CHLim 于 2008-6-27 10:23 发表
Assuming you have an even length side wall and a flat front wall, toe in will give

-   a more precise and solid imaging in the expense of soundstage width.  
-   the listening position is brought ...

Sorry for my interruption, it's quite a discussion here.


for wider sound stage, try cover both speakers with thick cotton fabric or wood (50mm). If sounds wider, sometime wider than the speaker distance, then it's the cabinet vibration cause the narrow sound stage.


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toe-in or not, the width is similar in my case, if the tweeters distance remain the same.

but toe-in sounds better in tonal balance and focus. (and a little bit deeper in bass, maybe)

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tou120815

原帖由 MF10 于 2008-6-27 10:51 发表

tou20815兄别难为我了，我那点水平是连猜带蒙，[s:89]   大家重在参与，重在参与。[s:97]

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dingmr911

" a more precise and solid imaging in the expense of soundstage width.  "
That's what I'm looking for[s:97]
But this kind of position will make the whole layout of the orchestra sound disorder. So I always play solo or vocal instead of the symphony....

And to henry,  In my opinion, toe-in or not, it's a big question. [s:11]
Like I sad, toe-in distroythe orientation of the instrument, but I'd rather do it to make up the timbre...... You know, my room is in a extreme mess.....

And one more question to all my friends, what the height you put your speaker? I keep the tweeter a little bit lower than my ear. i tried to put it little bit higher like CHLim said, but does't like the sound in the nearfield.
So far I haven't done much comparisons in a farther position.

[ 本帖最后由 dingmr911 于 2008-6-27 23:28 编辑 ]

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CHLim

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Henry,

Not sure about covering the speakers with cloth or wood. Too much toe in, you will get a "V" soundstage and a sharper imaging. Isolation is critical. If you spike up the speakers, gone is the fatness which often mistaken for warmth. Gain is transparency.

A guru once told me that there is no bad speaker in high end, it will come down to mix and match like a chef mixing with his spices to create the taste he like. That is why sharing is important as we tap the knowledge and experience of others to improve our setup. I judge the price by its sound not brand. There is a huge following in US that the audio manufacturers sell direct and cut the middleman, pass on the savings to consumers. Visit www.audiocircle.com.

Nearfield listening reduce/delay the effect of sound reflected from the walls due to the distance. Hence, yield a cleaner sound. There is a golden triange formation, speakers and listening position pointing to the centrepoint, same length, work best in a less ideal room.     

Placing the tweeter below ear level results a lower soundstage height. Ever experience that soundstage never above the height of the speaker? The singer is like squatting. I love soundstage with theatre height and width.

What is couch height, dingmr? Often we use speaker stand height and neglect couch height. Both are co-related. When sitting on the couch, will your body be slightly tilt (body ergonomic of modern seating)? or up right? If the seat is tilt and tweeter is above the ear level, you can imagine what will happen.

What interconnect and cable do you guys use?

dingmr911

I always adjust the height instead of the stand....It's a way much easier way.....[s:97]

Never pay attention to  my posture during the listening..... I tried put the tweeter a little higher than my ear, it's better in a farther distance at the first image.  But in the nearfield the feeling is strange. This moment I can't say it's worse.....Maybe I just need time to get used to it....

BTW, today I saw a troubadours singing in the street, he played guita and harmonica. He performed extremely well and I was so moved. The beauty of music is just around in our life, we just need to open our heart and sense it.

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dingmr911

楼上的听音室真是专业啊。

还有MF10的那个是自己家么？

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tou120815

前几天去听了一对SL6S,用NADS100+S200去推,声音干且冷,不好对付 啊!!!!

dingmr911

MF 10哪里人？

还真想来听听。。。[s:97]