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gugula

原帖由 yeye5920 于 2006-3-31 13:35 发表

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装好了  一个字"爽"!
比我家里的7520等离子清晰很多,一眼就看出来了.(只有有线信号)

安装的人叫我把画面放在"动态"上面?是不是合理?

其他要说的,感觉这台机器真的很精致,比我的 ...

对了，你的有坏点吗？

yeye5920

原帖由 gugula 于 2006-3-31 13:43 发表


对了，你的有坏点吗？

没仔细看啊,中午11:30装好的,搜索了有线就来上班了.
应该不会那么衰吧!呵呵

旭龙

原帖由 听月小生 于 2006-3-30 22:24 发表
３，画面清晰度比较

播放DVD或是高清信号，细节会有这么大差距
存在严重疑问，感觉更多是设置或是拍摄问题，听月上的PP分辨率要再高些就好了。

屏蔽列表

作为37PF7320的用户 B4一下楼猪的这种所谓“测评”

chenzhehui

我只相信自己的眼睛，我自己比较了飞利浦和东芝的机器（都是商店的摆的机器），飞利浦的效果差的多了，颜色淡的很，有人说是它的特点，我认为这叫失真。看了它的几个型号都是这个样子，真是搞不懂。

旭龙

我之所以加亮此帖，是希望更多的东芝和飞利浦的用家来讨论此事，我个人对此评测存在很大疑问，拍摄的光圈＆快门等均设为自动，能得出客观的评价吗？我自己有过屏摄的经历，不同色彩风格的电视采用自动白平衡拍出来的颜色差别是非常巨大的，根本不能如实反映真实情况，各位到商场试试就知道了。
评测响应时间更是不能把快门调为自动，我感觉本测试中飞机图片中物体位移的位置明显比东芝大，也就是说拍摄飞机时的快门时间要比拍东芝时长，平常看到的测试结果应该是物体平移距离相同，但重影数量的区别来显示响应时间的快慢。

此测试有严重问题！严禁过激语言，请坛友们继续讨论

gugula

原帖由 旭龙 于 2006-3-31 14:36 发表
我之所以加亮此帖，是希望更多的东芝和飞利浦的用家来讨论此事，我个人对此评测存在很大疑问，拍摄的光圈＆快门等均设为自动，能得出客观的评价吗？我自己有过屏摄的经历，不同色彩风格的电视采用自动白平衡拍出来 ...

        我是32WL66C的用户。
        当时我买的时候对比了飞利浦的32寸的两款机，一个是逐点晶晰的，一个是不带逐点晶晰的。我看播
放DVD时，飞利浦带逐点晶晰这一款要比32WL66C清晰。不带逐点晶晰的跟32WL66C差不多或者要好一点。
总之我感觉32WL66C播放DVD时，效果确实一般，比SONY 32S就明显更差（主要这款没有HDMI，不然我就买
这款了）。 我当时问促销小姐，怎么DVD画面不如SONY,她说他们用的是高清机播放的,而东芝的不是。我估计她说了假话：在这么重要的商战场地，东芝会不舍得花几万元买个DVD高清播放机来演示？
       最后决定买32WL66C的原因是认为它的有线电视效果确实要好。

旭龙

看看这篇帖子吧，与听月所测结果大相径庭：
Pictures 图片（左为夏普，右为飞利浦）
You can see the backlight difference here. Also, notice the philips is brighter overall背光灯不一样，飞利浦更亮。








This is the most incriminating evidence that the black is black on sharp.. and yes the Sharp tv is turned on (notice the green power light). While the philips is slightly less bright than the picture shows (my camera isn't perfect) you can tell from the above pictures, those are pretty accurate in terms of how it looks.以下的图片非常明显地显示出，夏普的“黑”更为纯正，飞利浦则有略微发白（由于相机原因，发白程度比照片所示要轻）。


[ 本帖最后由 旭龙 于 2006-3-31 15:21 编辑 ]

旭龙

Settings
Sharp: Noise Reduction:Low, Sharpness:0, Backlight:-7
Philips: DNR:Max, Sharpness:3, Brightness:30
*note: i turned down backlight and brightness to settings i would normally watch at and not at the lowest settings to prove a point*

Observations
PQ is pretty good for an LCD, Equal to my old Sony 27" or better. I think a lot ppl haven't used the settings to really enhance the picture. HD picture and SD picture require different settings because they are different settings coming through.

One thing is for sure, without any kind of Digital Noise Reduction on either TV the SD picture looks like crap. This is b/c (i assume) they are displaying a poor signal and magnifying the defects.

With everything calibrated, I chose several channels or at least the channels that i thought were better quality programs (sports, c-span, cops, tbs). Both pictures look good.

Sharpness: Philips is sharper in SD, Sharp has a "softer" image, blended together so you may or may not like that... however, it's odd that some images display sharpness in certain areas of the picture and softness on the edges.

Color: Philips looks good, I still haven't adjusted the sharp since there are a total of 18 RGB settings that I can choose. Out of the box though, I would say they both push certain colors.

Overall, both look pretty good for SD. I'm not sure why they would be horrible unless it's not calibrated.

Black Comparison

The blacks on the Sharp has controls for backlight AND brightness
The Philips only has brightness and does not affect the backlight (very minimally)

Observations
There is a clear winner here as you will see from the pictures. Sharp wins by a landslide. Properly calibrated, the sharp really blows the Philips away. I hope no one judges these TVs in store since everyone should know that the settings are on vivid or set improperly.

I hope my pictures show the difference but basically, the philips is a lot whiter compared to the sharp. No details are lost in the picture in dark modes. The philip blends the black but it seems that the details are lost.

irc163

原帖由 gugula 于 2006-3-31 13:42 发表

恭喜啊，拿到了。
我觉得"动态"太亮了。用“标准”好。

动态和标准都不是最好，最好是用HiVi Cast调整一下，可以以自己认为较好的模式为基础。最好成为记忆模式最好。

gugula

当我在看三星32寸液晶电视演示时，画面都有重影（不管DVD还是有线）。
促销小姐跟我说是这里信号不好。这同样让人难以置信。
三星的液晶电视不管是在画面效果还是外观造型，只能用一话来形容：
比不上中国的乡镇企业出的产品。
    三星加油啊！

gugula

原帖由 irc163 于 2006-3-31 15:20 发表



动态和标准都不是最好，最好是用HiVi Cast调整一下，可以以自己认为较好的模式为基础。最好成为记忆模式最好。

哪里找的到HiVi Cast。谢谢

nestle80

lz开了“逐点晶晰”没有？

蓝翎

色彩风格，东芝一点没变，还是CRT时代的风格　。

zhang_lei_china

我想向"听月小声"提两个建议.
1: 能否真实准确的公开66C的物理数据(所以的).
2: 假设你是别的LCD促销员,请说说该款的缺点.
我想目前还没有完美的LCD电视.