鄙视日商，SONY HR36在中国缩水严重

yangjuniori

要预防盗版 灭掉多制式电视机是个好方法  呵呵

wjken

原帖由 saintwei 于 2005-8-20 12:05 发表
我看有些人才要搞清楚呢。现在国货比不上日货是客观事实，但是90年代你买电视机你会买日本产品还是买韩国产品？当然是买日本的，因为韩国的没有日本的好，但韩国人自己仍然用自己国家的产品而不买日本货。正因为有 ...

这个逻辑有点可笑埃......那你怎么不支持一下爱普太可网易拍啊....背不住他以后就是中国的sony啊

自己产品不争气还要人家往里花冤枉钱,也不看看中国企业都是什么德行....人家韩国人争了钱是把产品搞的更好,中国的企业争了钱就知道吃喝玩乐糟蹋.....

darkshadow

谁要你买的,谁让最广大中国人没有钱的,人家把高端的功能加上了你又喊太贵,人家也要吃饭的啊,卖不出去,吃大使啊

saintwei

大家看看SONY在美国的一些型号

30" Hi-Scan® FD Trinitron® WEGA® TVKV-30HS420
Specifications • Audio

• TruSurround® SRS® Audio (15W x 2)

• Steady Sound™ Automatic Volume Control With BBE® Audio Effect

• Auto Mute Tuner
Auto SAP

• Audio Output (Fixed/Variable)


• Video

• Dynamic Focus™ Circuitry  

• Dynamic Picture™ Circuitry  

• Trinitone® Color Temperature  

• ClearEdge VM™ (Wideband Velocity Modulation Scanning)  

• Vertical Aperture Compensation  

• Vertical Center Adjustment  

• 3 D Digital Comb Filter  

• Auto Program  

• Caption Vision (CC)  

• Channel Fix  

• Channel Label  

• Channel Skip/Add  

• Clock/Timer Two Event  

• Energy Star® Compliant  

• Favorite Channel With Preview  

• Front Button Menu Control  

• Picture Freeze  

• Channel Jump  

• On Screen Display (English/Spanish/French)  

• Program Palette™ (Vivid/Movie/Standard/Sports) presets  

• Tilt Correction  

• Scrolling Channel Index™ System  

• Sleep Timer Function  

• Speed Surf™ Channel Selection  

• V Chip Parental Control  

• Video Label  

• Auto Pedestal Clamp  

• Auto White Balance  

• High Voltage Regulator


• General

• Power Consumption (in Operation): 280W

• (In Standby): 1W  

• Power Requirements: AC 120V 60Hz


• Inputs and Outputs

• Component Video Input (Y/PB/PR): 2 Rear  

• Composite Input: 1 Front/3 Rear  

• A/V Inputs: HMDI: 1 Rear  

• S-Video Input: (With Detection): 1 Front/2 Rear  

• Control S: 1 Rear  

• Audio Output: 1 Rear  

• Monitor Output: 1 Rear


• Weight

• 149 lbs 10 oz (67.9kg)


• Dimensions

• 35 3/8" x 23 3/4" x 22 1/4" (898 x 604 x 564.5mm)


• Supplied Accessories

• Instruction Manual  

• Remote Control (RM-Y198)  

• AA Battery (2)  

官方价格 $ 899.99

saintwei

34" Hi-Scan® FD Trinitron® WEGA® TVKV-34HS420

Turn your home into a cinema with the KV-34HS420 34" Hi-Scan 1080i™ television from Sony. Combining a high-quality 16:9 FD Trinitron® picture tube with a Hi-Scan 1080i™ display and DRC™ Digital Reality Creation™ multi-function circuitry, the KV-34HS420 produces visuals like no other.
The KV-34HS420 also features TruSurround™ SRS® and Steady Sound™ automatic volume control with BBE® Audio Effect for a breathtaking theatre-like audio experience. It also includes other high-end technology, such as CineMotion® Reverse 3-2 Pulldown technology, a high voltage regulator, and a DVI-HDTV interface.


•  FD Trinitron Flat CRT delivers a picture with uncompromising accuracy and outstanding image detail via a technologically advanced tube.

•  Digital Reality Creation® (DRC) Multifunction Unlike conventional line doublers, the DRC Multifunction feature replaces the signal’s NTSC waveform with the HD equivalent, while doubling the number of vertical and horizontal lines. This results in four times the density for quality sources, such as DVD, satellite and digital camcorders. The Video Menu allows you to select interlaced, progressive or CineMotion® output.

•  CineMotion® using the reverse 3-2 pull down technology, the Cinemotion feature provides smoother picture movement when playing back movies or other video sources on film.

•  HD Detailer™ Wide Band Video Amplifier has a high bandwidth frequency rating, which allows it to send more video information to the screen, resulting in finer picture quality, especially for HD sources.

•  Clear Edge VM™ Wideband Velocity Modulation allows you to select levels to create better separation between an object and its background for clearer edges, greater picture depth and improved overall picture quality.

•  WOW provides a dramatic presence with a full, deep base sound. When WOW is enabled, BBE is directly activated to further enhance the audio performance.

•  BBE gives sound more impact by using audio technology to compensate for phase effects in speakers.

•  SRS produces a dynamic three-dimensional sound for stereo programs.

•  Parental Control (V-Chip) allows parents to block unsuitable programming from younger viewers.

•  Favorite Channels allow you to set up and select from up to eight of your favorite channels.

•  Energy Star® meets the Energy Star guidelines for energy efficiency.

•  HDMI™ Interface (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) provides an uncompressed, all-digital audio/video interface between the TV and any HDMI-equipped audio/video component, such as a set-top box, DVD player, and A/V receiver. HDMI supports enhanced, or high-definition video, plus multi-channel digital audio.

•  Front Panel Controls allows access to the on-screen menus without the use of a remote control.

•  Front A/V Inputs lets you quickly connect video games, camcorders or stereo/mono equipment.

•  Dual Component Video Inputs achieve greater color accuracy than composite and S-Video when connecting to compatible devices (DVD players, VCRs, etc.).

•  Warranty 1 Year Parts, 90 Days Labor (2 Years Parts on the Picture Tube)

Price: $ 1,499.99

saintwei

32" Hi-Scan® FD Trinitron® WEGA® TVKV-32HS420

Make it worth watching with the incredible picture resolution of a Sony Hi-Scan® TV. The KV-32HS420 32" FD Trinitron® WEGA® Hi-Scan® TV features four times the picture resolution of a conventional TV, thanks to Sony's Digital Reality Creation® MultiFunction Circuitry. Resolution is increased both vertically and horizontally, and the results are spectacular. CineMotion® Reverse 3-2 Pulldown technology improves the look of older videos by preserving the integrity of the original film frames. Additional features include Speed Surf™ Channel Selection, V Chip Parental Control, and TruSurround® SRS® Audio.  

•  FD Trinitron Flat CRT delivers a picture with uncompromising accuracy and outstanding image detail via a technologically advanced tube.

•  Digital Reality Creation™ (DRC) Multifunction Unlike conventional line doublers, the DRC Multifunction feature replaces the signal’s NTSC waveform with the HD equivalent, while doubling the number of vertical and horizontal lines. This results in four times the density for quality sources, such as DVD, satellite and digital camcorders. The Video Menu allows you to select interlaced, progressive or CineMotion™ output.

•  CineMotion® using the reverse 3-2 pull down technology, the Cinemotion feature provides smoother picture movement when playing back movies or other video sources on film.

•  16:9 Enhanced provides enhanced picture resolution for wide-screen sources such as DVD.

•  HD Detailer™ Wide Band Video Amplifier has a high bandwidth frequency rating, which allows it to send more video information to the screen, resulting in finer picture quality, especially for HD sources.

•  Clear Edge VM™ Wideband Velocity Modulation allows you to select levels to create better separation between an object and its background for clearer edges, greater picture depth and improved overall picture quality.

•  WOW provides a dramatic presence with a full, deep base sound. When WOW is enabled, BBE is directly activated to further enhance the audio performance.

•  BBE gives sound more impact by using audio technology to compensate for phase effects in speakers.

•  SRS produces a dynamic three-dimensional sound for stereo programs.

•  Parental Control (V-Chip) allows parents to block unsuitable programming from younger viewers.

•  Favorite Channels allow you to set up and select from up to eight of your favorite channels.

•  Energy Star® meets the Energy Star guidelines for energy efficiency.

•  HDMI Interface (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) provides an uncompressed, all-digital audio/video interface between the TV and any HDMI-equipped audio/video component, such as a set-top box, DVD player, and A/V receiver. HDMI supports enhanced, or high-definition video, plus multi-channel digital audio.

•  Front Panel Controls allows access to the on-screen menus without the use of a remote control.

•  Front A/V Inputs lets you quickly connect video games, camcorders or stereo/mono equipment.

•  Dual Component Video Inputs achieve greater color accuracy than composite and S-Video when connecting to compatible devices (DVD players, VCRs, etc.).

•  Warranty 1 Year Parts, 90 Days Labor (2 Years Parts on the Picture Tube)

Price: $ 999.99

saintwei

34" Widescreen XBR® HDTVKD-34XBR960



• Power Requirements: AC 120V 60Hz

• Dimensions (WxHxD): 39 1/8" x 25 5/8" x 23 7/8" (994 x 652 x 605mm)

• Weight: 194 lbs 8 oz (88.2kg)


• Inputs and Outputs:  

• Component Video Input (Y/PB/PR) --- (1080i/720p/480p/480i) 2 Rear  

• Composite Input --- 1 Front/3 Rear  

• HDMI --- 1 Rear  

• S-Video Input --- (with detection) 1 Front/2 Rear  

• Control S --- 1 Rear  

• Audio Output --- 1 Rear (Fixed/Variable)  

• Monitor Output --- 1 Rear  

• RF Input --- 2 (antenna and cable)  

• CableCARD™


• Tuner:  

• ATSC, NTSC  

• 8 VSB  

• Clear QAM  

• Seamless Tuning  

• Digital Cable


• Supplied Accessories:  

• Remote Control (RM-Y201)  

• AA Battery (2)  

• Instruction Manual


• Optional Accessories:

• A/V Stand: SU-34XBR1


• Audio:  

• Trusurround™ by SRS

• 7.5W x 2 + 15W Subwoofer  

• Steady Sound® Automatic Volume Control With BBE® Audio Effect  

• Auto SAP  

• Audio Output (Variable/Fixed)  

• MTS Stereo  

• Speaker On/Off  

• PCM  

• AC-3


• Convenience:  

• Auto Channel Program  

• Caption Vision (CC)  

• Channel Fix  

• Channel Label  

• Channel Skip/Add  

• Clock/Timer Two Event  

• Antenna level for DTV  

• Favorite Channel With Preview  

• Front Button Menu Control  

• Picture Freeze  

• Channel Jump  

• On Screen Display (English/Spanish/French)  

• Program Palette™ (Vivid/Movie/Standard/Sports)  

• Tilt Correction  

• Scrolling Channel Index System  

• Sleep Timer Function  

• Speed Surf™ Channel Selection  

• V Chip Parental Control  

• Video Label  

• Wide Modes: (Normal/Full/Zoom/Wide Zoom)  

• DTV Auto Add  

• PSIP Program Information


• Video:  

• Dynamic Focus™ Circuitry  

• Dynamic Picture Circuitry  

• Trinitone® Color Temperature  

• ClearEdge VM™ (Wideband Velocity Modulation Scanning)  

• Vertical Aperture Compensation  

• Vertical Center Adjustment  

• 3 D Digital Comb Filter  

• Auto Pedestal Clamp  

• Auto White Balance  

• High Voltage Regulator  

• HD Detailer™ Wideband Video Amplifier  

• NTSC Color System  

• ID1 detection  

• Magnetic Quadruple Pole  

• Tilt correction  

• Vertical Correction  

• Vertical Size Adjustment

$ 1,899.99

saintwei

在美国似乎32、36寸的是4：3的屏幕，30、34的是16：9的屏幕。SONY的电视最高端的还是在美国，一流产品输出欧美，这个定律还是没变。

sony1982

缩水还抬价，小日本。

杀阿扁

我替你用红色大致标出了美国版和国内版的不同点，其余的方面的功能国内版的HR36应该也有的。也许标注得不全面，不足之处希望同学们指出并补充。

Power Requirements: AC 120V 60Hz 国内是220V

• Dimensions (WxHxD): 39 1/8" x 25 5/8" x 23 7/8" (994 x 652 x 605mm) 尺寸没什么好比的

• Weight: 194 lbs 8 oz (88.2kg) 重量差不多


• Inputs and Outputs:  

• Component Video Input (Y/PB/PR) --- (1080i/720p/480p/480i) 2 Rear   HR36相同


• Composite Input --- 1 Front/3 Rear   HR36相同

• HDMI --- 1 Rear HR36没有

• S-Video Input --- (with detection) 1 Front/2 Rear  HR36是一前一后


• Control S --- 1 Rear   HR36好像没有，这是控制周边设备的功能，有了这个功能所有周边设备的遥控器都可以对着HR36来遥控

• Audio Output --- 1 Rear (Fixed/Variable)   HR36相同

• Monitor Output --- 1 Rear   HR36相同

• RF Input --- 2 (antenna and cable)  HR36只有CATV RF，没有ATSC RF，因为国内还没有高清RF放送，也不是ATSC的

• CableCARD™ HR36没有，因为国内收费电视根本不用CARD


• Tuner:  

• ATSC, NTSC  HR36只有CATV Tuner，没有ATSC Tuner，因为国内还没有高清RF放送，也不是ATSC的


• 8 VSB  HR36没有，这是美国ATSC 数字地面电视8-VSB调制器

• Clear QAM   这个也是和有线电视电缆传输的数字电视信号相关的

• Seamless Tuning   没明白具体含义

• Digital Cable跟数字电视放送有关的


• Supplied Accessories:  

• Remote Control (RM-Y201)   遥控器HR36也有，但规格不同

• AA Battery (2)   遥控器电池HR36也有

• Instruction Manual 使用说明书HR36也有


• Optional Accessories:

• A/V Stand: SU-34XBR1 底座HR36同样是选配件


• Audio:  

• Trusurround™ by SRS  HR36相同

• 7.5W x 2 + 15W Subwoofer   HR36也有，但功率不祥

• Steady Sound® Automatic Volume Control With BBE® Audio Effect   HR36相同

• Auto SAP  这个没明白是什么，不敢瞎说

• Audio Output (Variable/Fixed)   HR36相同

• MTS Stereo  和双伴音有关的？可能类似于HR36的NACAM，但不敢肯定

• Speaker On/Off   HR36相同

• PCM  

• AC-3配合ATSC放送的5.1声道伴音系统


• Convenience:  

• Auto Channel Program   HR36相同

• Caption Vision (CC)  

• Channel Fix   HR36相同

• Channel Label   HR36相同

• Channel Skip/Add   HR36相同

• Clock/Timer Two Event   HR36相同

• Antenna level for DTV 配合ATSC放送的天线灵敏度调整


• Favorite Channel With Preview   HR36相同

• Front Button Menu Control   HR36相同

• Picture Freeze  画面冻结功能,HR36上没有

• Channel Jump   HR36相同

• On Screen Display (English/Spanish/French)    HR36的OSD是汉语、英语、阿拉伯语


• Program Palette™ (Vivid/Movie/Standard/Sports)   HR36相同，但叫法不同

• Tilt Correction   [color=red画面旋转调节，]HR36相同

• Scrolling Channel Index System   HR36相同

• Sleep Timer Function   HR36相同

• Speed Surf™ Channel Selection   HR36相同

• V Chip Parental Control   童锁？要是的话HR36相同

• Video Label   HR36相同

• Wide Modes: (Normal/Full/Zoom/Wide Zoom)   HR36相同

• DTV Auto Add  配合ATSC放送的


• PSIP Program Information配合ATSC放送的电子节目指南


• Video:  

• Dynamic Focus™ Circuitry   HR36相同
• Dynamic Picture Circuitry   HR36相同

• Trinitone® Color Temperature   HR36相同

• ClearEdge VM™ (Wideband Velocity Modulation Scanning)   HR36相同

• Vertical Aperture Compensation   HR36相同

• Vertical Center Adjustment   HR36相同

• 3 D Digital Comb Filter   HR36相同

• Auto Pedestal Clamp   没明白是什么不敢瞎说

• Auto White Balance   HR36相同

• High Voltage Regulator   HR36相同

• HD Detailer™ Wideband Video Amplifier   适合HD的视放带宽？HR36好像是30M的


• NTSC Color System  NTSC单制式电视机，HR36是全制式的

• ID1 detection   HR36相同，应该还有适应PAL制式的WSS detection

• Magnetic Quadruple Pole  detection  HR36相同

• Tilt correction   HR36相同

• Vertical Correction   针对4：3转换到16：9的画面调节功能，HR36相同

• Vertical Size Adjustment 针对4：3转换到16：9的画面调节功能，HR36相同


一些功能的有否，取决于该产品销售地的实际使用条件，不能一味地抱怨没有，至于说到价格，又是另外一回事情，要是全球价格一致，那就不会有水货了。

[ 本帖最后由 杀阿扁 于 2005-8-21 13:43 编辑 ]

pinggoto

原帖由 saintwei 于 2005-8-21 12:17 发表
在美国似乎32、36寸的是4：3的屏幕，30、34的是16：9的屏幕。SONY的电视最高端的还是在美国，一流产品输出欧美，这个定律还是没变。

错了，最好的产品在日本国内。

tonymao

原帖由 qqqaaazzzxxx 于 2005-8-20 16:44 发表




中国绝大多数家庭----------hr36可不是属于中国绝大多数家庭的电视

上面那位说的对，它应该和它同价位的电视比，
，不客气地说，中国能买得起hr36的人绝对插的完它的口

[s:14][s:14][s:14][s:14][s:14]老兄，你用手指头去堵那些口吧，10根手指头差不多够用呃~~~
搞不懂，大概是无知者无畏吧，什么话都敢说~~~[s:18]

shinobi

TG的帖子你也YY

BBY

支持楼主、myjd等眼睛雪亮的国人！

D端子从纯技术层面上来讨论本也无可厚非，可笑的是那位叫aqsxd的，连消费税和增值税的区别都没搞清楚就混为一谈，一个是价外税，一个是价内税，怎么比？税负的轻重是根据毛利的比重来定的

这年头，当托也得有点基本素质才行呐。。。。

光头冬天里

日产KD-36HR500y与国内生产的KV-HR**T**根本就是两码事！
白痴，有钱你买HZ极品，看看少了哪样功能？