复刻美国西湖BBSM-12F

mravel

西湖，分频做的太牛逼了。[s:97]

martin_wu

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submariner

原帖由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-20 12:26 发表

不要迷信哥，哥只是传说[s:14] 这种西湖只是奥迪斯的声音而已。
汤喜力（简直就是汤加丽他哥，香港人确实没文化[s:18] ）离开JBL后，不管是开办西湖还是东湖，只有木号角最有代表性[s:97]

   [s:14]  照这个论调，是否可以简化为。只有卖几十W的西湖才是西湖。其它西湖就不是西湖声了。

martin_wu

原帖由 submariner 于 2011-6-20 12:36 发表

   [s:14]  照这个论调，是否可以简化为。只有卖几十W的西湖才是西湖。其它西湖就不是西湖声了。

西湖那个LOGO确实很值钱[s:41]

martin_wu

号称是世界上最精准的监听喇叭，看看他的设计理念
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研究一下西湖的分频器到底有多牛逼，据说是采用了P.E.DISTORTION补偿技术



[ 本帖最后由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-20 13:41 编辑 ]

martin_wu

高保真最后的瓶颈？？？[s:31]
西湖宣称他们发现了菲尼克斯效应（以西湖公司的戈蓝.菲尼克斯命名）

martin_wu

缆线也在菲尼克斯效应之内（线材爱好者们该高兴[s:41] 了）

martin_wu

这些统称为戈蓝菲尼克斯的白皮书[s:97]

Philharmonic

原帖由 家电火炬手 于 20/6/2011 14:04 发表
这是西湖给我回的信（报价很黑啊。。。）：


Hello,

Thank you for your inquiry and the photos of your BBSM-12F.  The photos are very helpful in determining the production year.  These loudspeakers ...

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Philharmonic

原帖由 Philharmonic 于 20/6/2011 15:48 发表

这家便宜

这个也有

莳云人CT

HIFI也在于折腾。[s:97] [s:20]

martin_wu

如果按照菲尼克斯效应补偿理论，西湖果然能化腐朽为神奇，点石成金，用哪家的喇叭都能做出世界上最精准的监听喇叭。[s:97]

家电火炬手

老吴 我想把AUDAX的低音用JBL12" （128h-1）来代替，两个参数接近  但是JBL是西湖用在更高端型号里的喇叭

martin_wu

原帖由 家电火炬手 于 2011-6-20 14:07 发表
老吴 我想把AUDAX的低音用JBL12" （128h-1）来代替，两个参数接近  但是JBL是西湖用在更高端型号里的喇叭

试试也无妨，但你要把与分频器有关的参数搞清楚再说。