复刻美国西湖BBSM-12F

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原帖由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-17 18:13 发表

我推测后缀F的是家用HIFI版（family）

有10F但是没有12F

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原帖由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-17 18:00 发表
去找资料，发现这条狗好漂亮 什么品种？
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这个狗有点像冯巩  哈

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原帖由 家电火炬手 于 2011-6-17 18:18 发表
[quote]原帖由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-17 18:11 发表
你是不是要找这些东西？

你太厉害了  把一手资料都找到了

你图上最上面的低音是 我30楼帖子里BBSM12的低音  是最 ...

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这是西湖公司的答复：
The tweeters & mid's from the BBSM-12 are from Audax, tweeter part number TWO34XO and mid part number PR17HR70.
There are upgrades that can be done to update these older BBSM-12's. The newest versions now have the Low PE Distortion upgrades. I've attached information on the Low PE Distortion for you to look over & see if this would be something your customer would be interested in.
Let me know if there is anything else I may help you with."

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From what I can see searching on the web, the Audax TWO34XO tweeter is still available but the PR17HR70 mid has been replaced with the PR170M0.

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Nature de la membrane	TPX	-
Bande passante	32 -36000	Hz
Impédance nominale	8	ohms
Puissance nominale	70	watts
Rendement	88	(2.83v/1m)
Fs	32	Hz
Diamètre bobine	40	mm
Hauteur bobine	14	mm
Diamètre moteur	120	mm
Qts	0.20
Qes	0.20
Re	6.2	ohms
Lbm	0.51	mH
Mms	14.1	g
Diamètre	166	mm
Diamètre de découpe	146	mm
Poids	2.57	kg

[ 本帖最后由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-19 17:09 编辑 ]

martin_wu

你也可以直接给西湖厂写信
The serial number would help a great deal. The BBSM-12 started out with an Audax woofer, part number HD30P45, which was discontinued a couple years ago. The replacement for that woofer is an Audax HT300MO. There were also some BBSM-12's that used a Focal woofer, part number 12V7265, these were used on serial numbers 757 & up.
If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you for your support of Westlake Audio products.
Manny Covarrubias

for


Ken Centofante
Westlake Audio, Inc.
2696 Lavery Court, Unit 18
Newbury Park, CA 91320-1591
Tel. (805) 499-3686 Fax (805) 498-2571
www.westlakeaudio.com
西湖BBSM12最早的低音也是奥迪斯，型号是HD30P45，已经停产好些年了，替代型号是奥迪斯的HT300MO，有些BBSM12也用福柯(法国劲浪）的低音，型号是12V7265，这些单元用在序列号757及以上的产品上。

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上图片看看

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martin_wu

接着研究：
1. They changed the type of woofers after Serial No. 757 from Audax to Focal as the Audax unit was discontinued (你的序列号是841，当然是福柯的低音了)

2. The midrange is an Audax PR17HR70. the PR17HR70 has been repalced by the PR170M0.

3. The tweeter is an Audax TW034X0 and that is  a current model.

AUDAX TW034X0

34mm - textile dome - 100W - 93 dB -

81,10

S

AUDAX PR170M0

170mm midrange , 100W , 100 dB - 2.5 kgs

93,85

S

[ 本帖最后由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-19 16:57 编辑 ]

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原帖由 家电火炬手 于 2011-6-17 18:22 发表
[quote]原帖由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-17 18:17 发表
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西湖BBSM-12 低音只有 AUDAX 和FOCAL 两种，但是AUDAX年代不同有两个版本，FOCAL是最后期的。

BBS ...

什么嘎斯，还苏联小汽车呢[s:41] 那是高斯低音，很有名气的[s:14]

martin_wu

现在应该清楚了吧

martin_wu

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馒头吴[s:20] [s:20]

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这是西湖给我回的信（报价很黑啊。。。）：


Hello,

Thank you for your inquiry and the photos of your BBSM-12F.  The photos are very helpful in determining the production year.  These loudspeakers were manufactured here in our facility in July of 1991 and shipped in January of 1992.

Regarding the model and brand of the drivers, the information is proprietary as we modify them and enhance them for maximum performance.  The drivers are essentially not the same drivers that "come out of the box".  We recommend you purchase replacement drivers from us so they can be matched sonically and modified just like the originals.  We also recommend you buy drivers for both cabinets for the same reason.

Pricing for these drivers is as follows:

Tweeter  (2 Required)                     $249.00 Each                $498.00 Total
Midrange (2 Required)                     $375.00 Each                $750.00 Total
Woofer    (4 Required)                     $689.00 Each               $2756.00 Total

Grand Total                                                                        $4004.00

This pricing does not include shipping, customs, etc.  If you would like to proceed, payment in advance by wire transfer would be required.  Approximately 2 weeks would be required to prepare these drivers.  While this repair may seem expensive, keep in mind that new pricing of BBSM-12F models is $23,900.00.

Thank you for your interest in maintaining your Westlake speakers.  Please let us know how you would like to proceed.

Sincerely,

Barbara Born
Westlake Audio, Inc.

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原帖由 martin_wu 于 2011-6-19 16:32 发表
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这个箱子太牛了  全TAD的喇叭

不够看到“额头贴黄符”第一眼让我想起了--------湘西赶尸。。。。。[s:14]

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原帖由 家电火炬手 于 2011-6-20 12:04 发表
这是西湖给我回的信（报价很黑啊。。。）：


Hello,

Thank you for your inquiry and the photos of your BBSM-12F.  The photos are very helpful in determining the production year.  These loudspeakers ...

不要迷信哥，哥只是传说[s:14] 这种西湖只是奥迪斯的声音而已。
汤喜力（简直就是汤加丽他哥，香港人确实没文化[s:18] ）离开JBL后，不管是开办西湖还是东湖，只有木号角最有代表性[s:97]