空调杂谈

becks_9

原帖由 weiweinet 于 2009-5-19 11:41 发表
狂支持船长，你的观点我非常同意。以我的亲身经历为证。新装两台空调，因地处湖南某地市，无松下、大金等高端品牌，故变频空调未入选，直接考虑国内定速空调。
次卧（11平方）格力32新绿洲(5级能耗，1900元)，室内温 ...

看问题要全面, 能效比的好坏, 在一般情况下, 是可以体现一个空调的性能的, 注意, 是性能, 不是效果好坏.
性能怎么说呢?举个不一定很恰当的例子, 一个60KG级的举重运动员冠军, 他一顿吃两碗饭, 他所能举起的重量在他这个级别是最高的,假设是100KG, 假设所有这个级别的举重运动员都一顿吃两碗饭, 那么, 无疑, 他是最厉害的, 吃得一样,但他举得更重. 但是有一个80KG级的举重运动员, 他只是一个第三名,甚至第四名, 他一顿可能要吃四碗饭,  他所能举起来的重量要超过前面那个60KG级的冠军. 他能举起120KG.
如果你要找他们来做苦力,应该怎么选择呢?
首先,你得认清自己所需搬的东西, 是多少重量. 如果在100KG以下, 那个轻量级的人就能胜任的, 那么,他一顿只吃两碗, 肯定是要比一顿吃四碗的省米啊. 但如果你需要搬120KG的东西.那个轻量级的搬不起来, 那么他吃得再少, 也是不能满足你的要求的. 这个时候就得选那个一顿吃四碗的家伙了.
所以, 选空调也是一样, 认清自己的需求, 再追求能效比. 这才是一个正确的方案, 要全面的看待问题, 不能一味的抛弃.

几度春秋

原帖由 weiweinet 于 2009-5-19 11:41 发表
狂支持船长，你的观点我非常同意。以我的亲身经历为证。新装两台空调，因地处湖南某地市，无松下、大金等高端品牌，故变频空调未入选，直接考虑国内定速空调。
次卧（11平方）格力32新绿洲(5级能耗，1900元)，室内温 ...

船长老大的理论没错，可你证明的方法有点问题：用32机打11平，每平制冷量290W；35机打16平，每平218，条件就不公平嘛。
再说，主、次卧的密封、朝向等条件你也没说啊。

眉间尺

今天才读到这篇帖子. 太强了.

Foreseer

原帖由 菜鸟也想飞 于 2009-3-10 14:19 发表
是　具体表现为内机长度增加，内外机重量增加（由39KG增加到49KG），能效比增加。而且HE18这个系列一直采用进口涡旋压缩机

e-scroll  -  nice performance

distinguished

原帖由 Foreseer 于 2009-7-26 11:01 发表



e-scroll  -  nice performance

ask for detail,honestly

frankb

现在高能效比的机器价格比5级能效的机器，价格高不是一点点，所以各方面用料还是相对好点，附加功能也多点。在旅馆用过一个松下五级的空调，舒适性和家里松下1级定频机没法比。

Foreseer

原帖由 distinguished 于 2009-7-26 11:05 发表

ask for detail,honestly

There is a National ( now Panasonic ) 5.0 KW  CS-50RJX2 ( Filter Clean Robot, Air Robot )
installed at the same apartment, in northern Tokyo.

This 50RJX has the e-scroll compressor,  runs very smooth and quiet, almost no particular
noise, no viberation from the compressor,  only fan generated wind-blowing sound,
out unit fan also runs at low rpm, you can see it,  fan speed linear changeable.

while I don't know if Guangzhou made HE18K  preform the same way...

This e-scroll unit seems even better than my Hitachi eco-scroll unit, which has a little higher sound
level,  noise seems come from compressed R410 trumbling ......  eco scroll is still nice  

all pure personal opinion

Foreseer

原帖由 distinguished 于 2009-7-26 11:05 发表

ask for detail,honestly

There is a National ( now Panasonic ) 5.0 KW  CS-50RJX2 ( Filter Clean Robot, Air Robot )
installed at the same apartment, in northern Tokyo.

This 50RJX has the e-scroll compressor,  runs very smooth and quiet, almost no particular
noise, no viberation from the compressor,  only fan generated wind-blowing sound,
out unit fan also runs at low rpm, you can see it,  fan speed linear changeable.

while I don't know if Guangzhou made HE18K  preform the same way...

This e-scroll unit seems even better than my Hitachi eco-scroll unit, which has a little higher sound
level,  noise seems come from compressed R410 trumbling ......  eco scroll is still nice  

all pure personal opinion

Foreseer

原帖由 distinguished 于 2009-7-26 11:05 发表

ask for detail,honestly

There is a National ( now Panasonic ) 5.0 KW  CS-50RJX2 ( Filter Clean Robot, Air Robot )
installed at the same apartment, in northern Tokyo.

This 50RJX has the e-scroll compressor,  runs very smooth and quiet, almost no particular
noise, no viberation from the compressor,  only fan generated wind-blowing sound,
out unit fan also runs at low rpm, you can see it,  fan speed linear changeable.

while I don't know if Guangzhou made HE18K  preform the same way...

This e-scroll unit seems even better than my Hitachi eco-scroll unit, which has a little higher sound
level,  noise seems come from compressed R410 trumbling ......  eco scroll is still nice  

all pure personal opinion

Foreseer

原帖由 distinguished 于 2009-7-26 11:05 发表

ask for detail,honestly

There is a National ( now Panasonic ) 5.0 KW  CS-50RJX2 ( Filter Clean Robot, Air Robot )
installed at the same apartment, in northern Tokyo.

This 50RJX has the e-scroll compressor,  runs very smooth and quiet, almost no particular
noise, no viberation from the compressor,  only fan generated wind-blowing sound,
out unit fan also runs at low rpm, you can see it,  fan speed linear changeable.

while I don't know if Guangzhou made HE18K  preform the same way...

This e-scroll unit seems even better than my Hitachi eco-scroll unit, which has a little higher sound
level,  noise seems come from compressed R410 trumbling ......  eco scroll is still nice  

all pure personal opinion

Foreseer

原帖由 distinguished 于 2009-7-26 11:05 发表

ask for detail,honestly

There is a National ( now Panasonic ) 5.0 KW  CS-50RJX2 ( Filter Clean Robot, Air Robot )
installed at the same apartment, in northern Tokyo.

This 50RJX has the e-scroll compressor,  runs very smooth and quiet, almost no particular
noise, no viberation from the compressor,  only fan generated wind-blowing sound,
out unit fan also runs at low rpm, you can see it,  fan speed linear changeable.

while I don't know if Guangzhou made HE18K  preform the same way...

This e-scroll unit seems even better than my Hitachi eco-scroll unit, which has a little higher sound
level,  noise seems come from compressed R410 trumbling ......  eco scroll is still nice  

all pure personal opinion

cs-17

原帖由 杰克船长 于 2009-3-11 00:22 发表

绝大多数，很多人使用的格力，美的低能效机器，一般出风口温度在8.5度甚至更冷，而如电机FC等高能效的机器，出风口制冷温度大都在11到13度左右，而且在循环风量不如的情况下

关键在于大多数时候不需要这个温度。卧室更是如此。

hoyip8218

管它3\7\21,用了先

cs-17

空调的好坏要根据自己的需要，我儿子的房间用的是东芝VR13，但他从不用微风，而且2-3的温差根本就热不醒他，估计用定频机效果也一样。但我就不行，用定频不是冻醒就是热醒，现在的定频温控如何不知道。
还有就是出风温度低只是性能的一个方面，但使用空调要舒服，就看空调的出风的温度的变化范围，有蛮劲还要有巧劲才是好空调，长虹DQK是又有蛮劲又有巧劲，东芝DQK巧劲有但蛮劲不足，长时间开机不会需要低的出风而短时用用则是低点好。
前两天一个贴子说不能把空调当电扇，是对的。出风温度越低越不能当电扇。

lexvn

说的很实在，什么叫最低噪音22分贝，那时候空调压缩机已经停止运行，电机也调到转速最小，其实这时候是不制冷，而是空调已将房间温度降到预定值，空调电机低速运转换气而已。
家用空调定频压缩机运行的时候没有一家能够达到30分贝以下的，小日本的机器也不敢声称能够达到30分贝以下，国内的厂家就是爱吹爱骗，声称什么世界名牌，先进压缩机核心技术和精工技术至少目前国内还没有掌握，至于格力的凌达压缩机和TCL瑞宏压缩机，技术水平只能说达到空调使用标准，至于什么叫世界领先技术，看看美国和小日本的技术吧，压缩机不是空调的全部，但也不能乱吹~~~~~