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[其它] 资源文件分享及聊聊dsd格式的真与假

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发表于 2024-9-11 10:50 | 显示全部楼层
我用DSD5.6MHz转录黑胶,高音泛音高达40khz:

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发表于 2024-9-11 11:05 | 显示全部楼层
LP里不会有40k的信号

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没错,LP本身没有40khz高音,但唱针振动会产生泛音,一次,二次,三次泛音。。。频率成倍上升,这种超高频就被高规格的数字录音记录下来了 人耳虽然不能完全听出这些高音泛音,但丰富的泛音会影响整体音质  详情 回复 发表于 2024-9-11 11:16
音箱我买两对B&W N801 累了, 一对听歌, 一对靠着按摸
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2-1704Xu 发表于 2024-9-11 10:19
有种说法是人声的dsd都是“假”的。理由:因人声需经后期的伴奏和歌声编辑混音合成,而dsd格式的音频是不 ...

是这样的。用DSD直接录也有,但不多,DSD录完后转为DXD进行混音、编辑、合成,这时有的唱片公司就直接发售DXD的专辑了,并再转制一份DSD格式的专辑一并发售,如挪威2L公司。2L公司最初是DXD格式的忠粉,只发行DXD格式,后来也同时发行DSD格式,原因可能是相同音质下,dsd比dxd的文件小很多,这样便于下载,所以后面又搞出了MQA

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是的。所以就有人会认为DXD是pcm,人声的dsd都是“假”的。我对资源文件,只追求实际听感,而不太会去扫描文件,判别“真假”。经实际比对也证实,绝大多数无论是经插值、转码还是怎样的折腾而来的高格式、高码率文  详情 回复 发表于 2024-9-11 11:50
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chen2003 发表于 2024-9-11 11:05
LP里不会有40k的信号

没错,LP本身没有40khz高音,但唱针振动会产生泛音,一次,二次,三次泛音。。。频率成倍上升,这种超高频就被高规格的数字录音记录下来了 人耳虽然不能完全听出这些高音泛音,但丰富的泛音会影响整体音质
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Macbook Pro 16+HD58x Jubilee
Lehmann Black Cube USB+HD650
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发表于 2024-9-11 11:41 | 显示全部楼层
也应该不会有 即使有 也听不见 大多数人16k 可能就听不到了

认为 唱针的额外振动可以引起声音的美化  一定是属于 玄学的范围 假如唱针真的能收录40k的信号,LP的高频相应一定能做到20K 实际也没有
  就像有人用示波器测量RJ45 网卡信号噪音降低 联想到 声音信号本身的噪音水平低一样  完全是2回事
音箱我买两对B&W N801 累了, 一对听歌, 一对靠着按摸
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发烧有节制 发表于 2024-9-11 11:10
是这样的。用DSD直接录也有,但不多,DSD录完后转为DXD进行混音、编辑、合成,这时有的唱片公司就直接发 ...

是的。所以就有人会认为DXD是pcm,人声的dsd都是“假”的。我对资源文件,只追求实际听感,而不太会去扫描文件,判别“真假”。经实际比对也证实,绝大多数无论是经插值、转码还是怎样的折腾而来的高格式、高码率文件,都相对比低格式、低码率文件来得好听。这对於我,就够了。毕竟我只是为了听好听的声音、音乐,至於文件是怎样制作完成,就无需我多操心了。
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兄弟,你让我链接微视平台?看哪个、什么?  详情 回复 发表于 2024-10-18 18:33
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zjiangj321 发表于 2024-10-18 18:18
h5.weishi.qq.com/weishi/feed/xCrTk?id=7USR97cOh1T1ILDwO
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兄弟,你让我链接微视平台?看哪个、什么?
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兄弟,你又重新发了一次,恕我愚钝,你能大白话直说吗?谢谢你。  详情 回复 发表于 2024-10-19 13:50
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兄弟,你又重新发了一次,恕我愚钝,你能大白话直说吗?谢谢你。
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重又发了一次,还是那么的一大溜。问卷网?什么鬼?

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噢,是让我看文章。麻烦你直接把文章的链接给我,或你复制粘贴给我。谢谢你。这么大一溜,我是弄不清楚的。并且也无从下手怎么操作可以看到那篇文章。  详情 回复 发表于 2024-10-19 17:20
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