一图给大家看看当年的先锋技术有多牛

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来自北美杜比实验室的D.G Brooks的文章 The art of better pixels
图中dolby pulsar display是用来制作HDR的设备，dolby出品。很多人估计都不认识SHARP ELITE PRO，当年先锋把显示部门卖给了夏普，然后这个部门作出了当年最牛的电视，没有之一，打趴任何的等离子，包括先锋最牛的等离子。

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当年论坛有晒图  2万美元起售  画质可圈可点  要说打趴所有等离子太夸张  核心的画质数据 其实不如PZ800

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先锋没整合NEC画质电路时候  画质也不出挑 哪怕用了最好的蜂窝结构等离子屏幕

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其实就算先锋最好的等离子电视 都未必能全方面压制住松下旗舰等离子   起码PZ800是纯松下技术  画质上和比他贵4倍的先锋  能打个来回

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ELITE PRO是先锋和夏普合作的出品 类似夏普采购飞利浦东芝芯片  

后来不合作了 自然夏普就没啥精品了

whindson

栗子大梨子 发表于 2023-1-12 12:41
ELITE PRO是先锋和夏普合作的出品 类似夏普采购飞利浦东芝芯片  

后来不合作了 自然夏普就没啥精品了

合作个p，就是夏普收购先锋后的产品。
打趴等离子当年不是我说的，当年先锋这个产品发布时候请了一堆人，都是专业人士，对着一打的等离子产品做对比的。包括先锋自家的等离子，还有松下的等离子。
elite pro当年打趴所有等离子，不是说每项都打败，而是综合素质打趴所有电视。也是唯一一台原生的黑位可以做到接近等离子的液晶，放到如今都没有一台液晶有如此素质，就算那些开了光控的液晶黑位依旧干不过先锋这台液晶

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whindson 发表于 2023-1-12 14:54
合作个p，就是夏普收购先锋后的产品。
打趴等离子当年不是我说的，当年先锋这个产品发布时候请了一堆人 ...

飞利浦也号称被收购了  冠捷拿到了飞利浦的核心画质技术了吗？

whindson

栗子大梨子 发表于 2023-1-12 17:34
飞利浦也号称被收购了  冠捷拿到了飞利浦的核心画质技术了吗？

飞利浦什么时候被收购了？人家只是退出中国市场而已，把中国市场的飞利浦3个汉字的商标卖给了冠捷。
再扯扯你认为比sony牛的飞利浦oled，不知道你会不会英文，你可以去avforums上看看说飞利浦oled的overshoot问题有多少，在LG的白光oled阵营里飞利浦是唯一一个对overshoot问题不采取任何解决手段的厂家
先锋是直接整个显示技术部门卖给了夏普。

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whindson 发表于 2023-1-12 17:40
飞利浦什么时候被收购了？人家只是退出中国市场而已，把中国市场的飞利浦3个汉字的商标卖给了冠捷。
再 ...

在家电论坛当然说的是电视机啊  咬文嚼字有意思么？飞利浦电视和东芝电视表面被中国企业收购了 但是核心技术并没有给冠捷和海信  起码欧规 日规 国产旗舰型号 还是他们自己的技术

夏普既然像你说的全盘收购了先锋整个显示技术部门  怎么一直动态画质那么烂  别说现在 哪怕巅峰期的2012年 夏普的画质依然是整个日系里面垫底的

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SHARP LICENSES PIONEER'S® ELITE® BRAND NAME FOR HIGH-END LCD TV LINE IN THE US AND CANADA
01/27/2011

Mahwah, NJ and Long Beach, CA, January 27, 2011 -- Sharp Electronics Corporation, the U.S. subsidiary of Japan's Sharp Corporation, and Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. today announced that Sharp will be granted license of Pioneer's "Elite" brand for a line of high-end flat panel displays to be introduced in the U.S. and Canada this year.

Pioneer markets a line of high-end audio/video receivers, Blu-ray Disc players and speakers under the Elite brand, which enjoys a substantial high-end customer following and a strong, established dealer network. By marketing an LCD TV line under the Elite brand, Sharp will expand the distribution of its premium large-scale TVs. In turn, the addition of a line of large-screen LCD TVs will complement Pioneer's Elite home theater offerings. The Elite line of LCD TVs, which will be jointly marketed by Sharp and Pioneer, will be available through Pioneer's authorized Elite dealer network.

"As a leader in large screen LCD TV, we are excited to collaborate with Pioneer to bring a high-end LCD TV to the Elite consumer," said John Herrington, President of Sharp Electronics Marketing Company of America. "The Elite brand is highly respected in the high end market and Sharp can deliver the quality and innovation that Elite customers demand."

"Adding a line of high-end flat panel TVs fills a market need in the industry and will help reinforce the strength of a complete Elite home theater offering," said Russ Johnston, Executive VP, Home Electronics Department, Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. "With its cutting edge LCD technology and unmatched production capabilities, Sharp is an important strategic collaborator that will deliver a whole new dimension to the large-screen home theater experience."

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先锋当 年的PDP确实不错。

不过，受PDP的物理影响，始终 还是不行。在好的画质，老百姓不喜欢 也没办法。

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我只看到夏普获得先锋授权生产电视  并没有所谓的夏普全盘收购先锋的显示技术

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we are excited to collaborate with Pioneer to bring a high-end LCD TV to the Elite consumer

搞了半天 只不过 collaborate with Pioneer   

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Pioneer to Acquire NEC''s Plasma Display Businesses
--- Memorandum of Understanding Concluded between Pioneer and NEC ---
February 3, 2004, Tokyo, Japan --- Pioneer Corporation (TSE: 6773; NYSE: PIO) and NEC Corporation (TSE: 6701; NASDAQ: NIPNY) jointly announced today that they had concluded a Memorandum of Understanding, by which NEC is to transfer to Pioneer (i) all the shares NEC holds in its subsidiary, NEC Plasma Display Corporation, and (ii) all the intellectual property rights NEC holds in relation to plasma displays.

In recent years Pioneer has been improving its business structures, reflecting its "select and focus" management policy, and one of its most important management strategies has been to further expand the plasma display business as a core of its current businesses.

NEC has been developing its businesses, focusing on two core domains of integrated IT/network solutions and semiconductor solutions, and is advancing strategies that fit the distinctive characteristics of these two business domains. Regarding NEC's display business, although strong growth is expected in displays for TV set use, substantial funding is required to expand growth. Taking this into consideration, NEC in line with its promotion of policies to find external capital for new growth in the industry examined the possibility of creating an alliance aiming for large-scale advantages to develop business.

In this business environment, Pioneer and NEC, which both independently develop and produce plasma displays, found that their respective technologies are familiar, and came to the conclusion that the integration of the highly-developed technologies and production capabilities of the two companies would enable them to demonstrate the maximum of their expertise and take the lead in the market, which will help meet the ever-rapidly increasing demand for plasma displays worldwide.

Details of the transfer of shares, etc., as well as the date of transfer, will be determined at a later date, and will be announced accordingly.

Outline of NPD

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先锋真正显示技术获得腾飞是因为2004年收购了NEC的等离子画质解决方案