索尼电视的坛友帮忙看下，索尼自带的软件商店里，有没有CalMAN for BRAVIA这个APP?

wikihua

过两天去同学家里玩，顺便帮他买的sony电视调下

我有calman，索尼电视是支持calman的autocacl（自动调整）的，不过需要CalMAN for BRAVIA这个app配合

看calman官网上，这个app是在sony电视自带的google store里下载的（国内明显不能访问了，国行估计都不会自带google store...）

所以想问问在国行的sony电视自带的应用商店里，有CalMAN for BRAVIA这个app吗？

谢谢了

月下良缘

谢谢分享！

michaellv2015

校色过的和没校色过的，完全就是两个等级的产品，不管是啥校色，只要能用，就绝对值得削尖脑袋去钻研一下。

jesson1971

你以前买的399美金的CALMAN家庭影院版？运气不错。现在这个版本取消了。

但是出来几个品牌定制版很便宜。


根据我知道的情况是这样的，19年的新款这四大品牌有几个机型支持CALMAN，也就是内置了4K的PATTERN，省了个信号发生器的钱。当买了以上这个软件后，电脑连上电视，CALMAN的DIP功能，即可用电脑端完成自动校色及3DLUT数据上传和加载。

LG19年的C9和SM液晶系列支持。SONY支持机型不清楚，可以查询。

LG是WEBOS的，不需要安装额外插件，按照以上逻辑，我猜测SONY无需另外安装APK，仅供参考。

另外，CALMAN一向的习惯是付费升级（很会赚钱），我估计你的是不是付点费用即可支持电视3DLUT校准？

775236

可以参考下https://calmankb.groovehq.com/he ... master-series-guide
Sony BRAVIA MASTER SERIES GuideThis guide designed as a reference to the Sony BRAVIA Workflow, used to calibrate Sony's upper-end Android TVs including Z9D and subsequent LCD and OLED models.
Updated on August 12, 2019

The BRAVIA workflow is used to calibrate Sony's upper-end Android TVs including Z9D and subsequent LCD and OLED models. This workflow will walk you through the process step-by-step, pre-configures most needed CalMAN Settings.

The workflow options are pre-configured so once connected over DDC, you will simply have to click "AutoCal" button on each of the following pages (Luminance, Grayscale, and Colorspace) to calibrate.

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• CalMAN Required Version
  • CalMAN 2018 R2 v5.9.1 or newer
    
• Required Hardware
  
  • CalMAN Compatible Pattern Generator
    
    • For information see CalMAN Compatible Pattern Generators
    • An HDR capable pattern generator is only required if HDR validation is required. See note below
      
  • CalMAN Compatible Meter
    
    • For information see CalMAN Compatible Meters
      
  • CalMAN Compatible Sony TV
    • Must be running Android 8.0 or higher to download CalMAN for Bravia
      • Note: 8.0 update currently delayed in European Market. For more info see this Sony Support Article
        
      
      
    
    
  
  

2016	2017	2018	2019
Z9D/ZD9	A1/A1E	A9F/AF9	Z9D/F
	X94E/XE94	Z9F/ZF9	A9F/A8F
	X94E/XE94	A8F/AF8	A9G/A8G
	X93E/XE93	X90F/XF90	A1E
	X90E/XE90	X85F/XF85	X850E/F/G
		X83F/XF83	X940E/X930E
		X80F/XF83	X800G/E
		X80F/XF80	X900F/E
		X75F/XF75	X950G
			X750F
			X830F
			Z9G
			X780F

NOTE:

• The models in BOLD support AutoCal for...
  • Luminance
  • 20 point Greyscale
  • Color Gamut
    
• All other models listed support...
  • Luminance
  • 10 point Grayscale
    
  
  

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HDR Calibration Note

• The calibration of SDR (2.2 Gamma, D65, Rec 709) is automatically applied to HDR and other gamma formulas.
• You can validate it by changing CalMAN and your Pattern Generator to HDR settings (2.2 Gamma, D65, BT.2020, and retaking all the measurements by Read Series.
  
  • HDR Compatible Pattern Generator required for validation
    
    • VideoForge PRO
    • Murideo Six-G
      
    
    
• You can do so in the Validation section of this workflow, but for checking HDR, we highly recommend you to use HDR Analysis workflow instead.
  

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SDR CalibrationStep 1

• From the CalMAN Menu in the top-left, choose Open Workflow Template and then Sony BRAVIA
  

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Step 2Confirm your calibration targets and prepare TV

• Install the app
  • Make sure your TV connected to the Internet, then open Google Play Store on your TV.
  • Search for and install an app called CalMAN for BRAVIA
    • Note: If the app does not appear...
      • Your TV may not be a compatible model
      • Your TV may not be updated to Android 8.0
        • Android 8.0 update currently delayed in European Market. For more info see this Sony Support Article
          
        
        
      
      
    
    
  
  

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Step 3Continue connecting your calibration hardware

• Plug your meter into a USB port on the computer and press the Find Meter button on the left
  • When your meter is connected, select your display type from the dropdown (this will vary by meter)
    • OLED: White-OLED (OLED (White) LG, Panasonic, FSI 2018 for C6 Meter)
    • LCD: Varies by model and year. 2018 Master Series LCDs are PFS Phosphor
      
    
    
• Connect Pattern Source to your computer
  • Click the Find Source button then select your source
  • Select the pattern window size
    • OLED:  Window 10%
    • LCD: Constant APL 10
      
    
    
  
  

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Step 4In this step, you'll take readings of your display before the calibration. These will be used to compare your calibration results

• Follow the recommendations in the workflow (above) to configure your calibration targets
  

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Step 5

Full Field Pattern Insertion (OLED ONLY)
To prevent an OLED display from entering its auto dimming mode during extended measurements, the CalMAN Pattern Insertion feature periodically inserts a different test pattern during extended test pattern measurements, to reset the display’s auto-dimming timer.

Under CalMAN Settings > Application Measurement Options, set the following Full Field Pattern Insertion options:

• Frequency: 30 (seconds)
• Duration: 5 (seconds)
• Level: 15%
  

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Step 6Select your Target Picture Mode

• Using the picture mode dropdown menu, or in the Display Control dropdown, select which picture mode you would like to calibrate.
  • Options are "Custom for Pro 1" or "Custom for Pro 2." Luminance and CMS data will be saved onto the specified Picture Mode.
    
• Also by using the color temperature dropdown menu, select where you would like to save grayscale calibration to.
• After selecting your picture mode, click the "Full DDC Reset" button. This resets and prepares the picture mode for calibration.
  

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Step 7In this step, you'll take readings of your display before the calibration. These will be used to compare your calibration results

• To take Pre-Calibration Measurements click the Read Series [...] button to measure the display's grayscale and ColorChecker response
  • This will provide a point of reference to compare your calibration results
    
  
  

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Step 8In this step, you will be able to adjust the Luminance of your display to match your desired target. Luminance is a subjective target. SDR reference luminance is 100cd/m2, but you may need to target higher to account for the ambient light in your environment

• Click the AutoCal Button
• Enter target luminance value
• Click OK to AutoCal luminance
  

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Step 9Here CalMAN will adjust the Multipoint Greyscale of your display

• Press the AutoCal button and select the correct data points in the AutoCal Dialog to auto-calibrate the Grayscale/Luminance response on your display.
  • You will be offered the correct number of greyscale points for your display
    
• Click OK to begin greyscale AutoCal
  

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Step 10Here CalMAN will adjust the Color Gamut of your display

• Click AutoCal Button in lower-right of CalMAN
• In AutoCal Dialog, the CMS values are automatically selected, click OK to start AutoCal
  

• Note: If CMS on picture modes other than Custom for Pro 1/2 has to be adjusted, see the CMS calibration result on DDC Window (HSL values), and adjust exactly the same on the modes of your choice.
  

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Step 11In this step, you'll take readings of your display after the calibration using the ColorChecker pattern set

• Click the Read Series [...] button
• Click Next to review calibration.
  

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Step 12Post-calibration readings to document the post-calibration condition of the display.

• Click the Read Series [...] button
  

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SDR Calibration is complete.(OPTIONAL) Alternative Gamma Verification

This workflow is setup to calibrate to 2.2 gamma. If you would like to validate an alternate gamma value, enter it in the gamma field on the Verification Options page. Then use the “Display Controls” to the right to change the TV’s gamma formula to match the value you entered in the field above.

Note: Once an alternate gamma is selected use the post-calibration to verify the results. Previous workflow validation pages will compare to the adjusted gamma value.

jesson1971

看了下楼上这个兄弟的信息，所以：

SONY不仅要装APK(这还好，大不了翻一下用GOOGLE PLAY),还需要购买信号发生器，印象里Murideo的要五千多。这不是对SONY赤裸裸的歧视（或者说照顾）？

LG就简单的很。For 2019 models, this can be the LG Internal Pattern Generator。省个几千大元，也无需装任何APK。

且慢，刚才又仔细检查了一下，SONY花了这么多钱，合着还仅是1DLUT的校准？我晕死，就这么欺负SONY的用户？SONY用户的钱不是钱，是纸？

dc999

当贝市场里有CalMAN for BRAVIA下载。

wikihua

dc999 发表于 2019-9-14 04:38
当贝市场里有CalMAN for BRAVIA下载。

是的，我已经搞定了，谢谢~

wikihua

jesson1971 发表于 2019-9-13 23:08
看了下楼上这个兄弟的信息，所以：

SONY不仅要装APK(这还好，大不了翻一下用GOOGLE PLAY),还需要购买信 ...

SONY没有和CALMAN作深入的合作，所以没有内置测试图像发生器。
LG也就是今年2019年才内置了CALMAN的发生器，去年也没有~

然后电视机内置CALMAN可编辑的3D LUT，LG也就是去年才推出。SONY估计还在观望把，毕竟这玩意太小众

diaojibo47

关键搞完有很大变化吗。

jesson1971

diaojibo47 发表于 2019-9-14 21:42
关键搞完有很大变化吗。

这玩意，一般人就别碰了。最便宜的4K家用3DLUT box，4000美刀。一个校色仪K10，7000美刀。
即使最便宜的信号发生器，800美刀。软件，100多美刀到2000美刀不等。

更别说学习成本，不明白MAX CLL，GAMMA，color sweep等一大堆术语，光设置就傻眼。在英国可以请人调一次，300英镑起（倒是省了设备和软件钱）。

效果嘛，这玩意反正后期工作室的审片室必须得有，3DLUT也是电影制作工业最先开始采用的。家用没点积累就别参和了。

wikihua

jesson1971 发表于 2019-9-14 23:16
这玩意，一般人就别碰了。最便宜的4K家用3DLUT box，4000美刀。一个校色仪K10，7000美刀。
即使最便宜的 ...

3D LUB box不是很需要，除非你有极致的需求。一般电视里设置好low high两点白平衡，灰阶值，6色色彩管理。然后在范围内的其他色点，靠内置的色彩管理算法，也八九不离十了。

校色仪，民用不需要K10-A那么高级的，一个爱色丽i1 PRO2足够了，哪怕i1 display pro也堪堪够用了，也就1000多。或者淘宝租一个也可以，一天几十块

软件，免费的有HCFR。收费的有calman等，当然calman是比较贵了，最便宜的video pro也要2000刀。不过新出的仅能用于特定电视品牌的版本也就145刀

当然，最关键的就像楼上说的，学习成本才是关键中的关键。没一点专业知识，还真搞不来这些，或者只能依葫芦画瓢，不知道为什么每一步这样做

效果么，我只能说对差的电视机能改善，对好的电视机能完善。 发挥出最大的效果