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发表于 2008-10-31 10:27 | 显示全部楼层
8k影音专家 多珀doopoo
准备上卡维12寸双炮,,我客厅50多平方,连着餐厅和门厅,得有近95平方,准备玩7.1声道.前后主箱.中置,环绕一概入墙式.刚在装修

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呵呵 炮都漂洋过海了!我觉得使用蛮好,炮速度、层次最重要,量感多了会吵人,楼上楼下的会来你家敲门的。
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想听LZ处理电流声的结果。
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楼主厉害厉害,都把炮运宝岛了[s:6]
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原帖由 z720501 于 2008-10-31 12:29 发表
呵呵 炮都漂洋过海了!我觉得使用蛮好,炮速度、层次最重要,量感多了会吵人,楼上楼下的会来你家敲门的。


“炮速度、层次最重要”[s:21] [s:21] [s:21]
当时就是看上它是密闭炮才下手的。而且现在动态一大就按摩我的屁股和后背,爽得很啊,呵呵。另外低音炮摆位太重要了,一定要多试试!!!
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震到宝岛啦
走别人的路,让他没路走!
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原帖由 hollyzy 于 2008-10-30 15:06 发表
那哥们已经在去火星的路上了,估计虚火上升导致言语失常,违反了班规,被送火星了。[s:97]
应了老话:莫装b,装b遭雷劈。


貌似那家伙又弄了另一个马甲出来吐口水,哈,现在凡是卡维的贴都看见那个马甲的了,呵呵,做人做到这地步够可怜的,估计假bose卖不出憋坏脑子了,哈哈哈
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:)

比较客观,很好
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原帖由 cscdx 于 2008-10-30 10:12 发表
可能是D类炮放的关系,传统炮放要有500W的功率的话,巨大的散热片是少不了的,而卡维是D类,根本就没散热片,靠后板铝合金整体成型来散热,开很久也不烫,估计褒开了后,会改善很多的


Product Review - Carver Knight Shadow 10" Subwoofer - March, 2002

Product Review - Carver Knight Shadow 10" Subwoofer - March, 2002
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John E. Johnson, Jr.

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Specifications:
Drivers: One 10" Rubberized Paper Cone

MFR: 18 Hz - 100 Hz

Nominal Impedance: 5.7 Ohms
Amplifier: 500 Watts RMS into 5.7 Ohms
Variable Phase 00 - 1800, Variable Low Pass  35 H - 100 Hz; Passive 70 Hz High-Pass
Size: 11" H x 11" W x 11" D
Weight: 40 Pounds
MSRP: $849 USA

  
Carver Corporation, P.O. Box 1589, Snohomish, Washington 98291; Web http://www.carveraudio.com/

Introduction

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I'm baaaaaaack," Bob Carver probably says, about the return of Carver Corporation. As many of you know, Bob sold his interests in Carver Corporation some years ago, started Sunfire Corporation, and then bought the Carver name back. Although Sunfire and Carver make the same type of products, namely receivers, amplifiers, and subwoofers, the market is different. Sunfire is the high-performance arm, while Carver Corporation will get back to its roots, making bang for the buck stuff.
This is where the Carver Knight Shadow subwoofer comes in. It uses some of technology of the Sunfire, including a long throw driver and tracking downconverter power amplifier, but the amplifier is not quite so large, and there is no passive radiator. The result is a powerful subwoofer - not earth shattering (neither is the price) - and is something that everyone can afford.
The Design
If you look at the photo up top, you will see that the Shadow looks pretty much like the Sunfire Subwoofers. The enclosure is semi-gloss black, the enclosure is small (11" cubed), the driver goes all the way out to the edge of the enclosure, and the driver has a huge rubber surround. I don't think I have ever seen a home theater product design that set in motion so much change in the industry as did this look. That surround has been mimicked all over the world. The reason it is so big is that the driver has a very large excursion (movement forward and backward) which requires a large flexible surround to accommodate the movement. When I look at that big surround, I think of the air cushions that people with hemorrhoids sit on, but that is because I am a geezer.
Of course, to drive that cone so far requires a big amplifier too, and the Shadow sports 500 watts. If you are familiar with Sunfire Subwoofers, you know this is a fraction of what Bob's tracking downconverter power amplifiers are capable of in the Sunfires. On the other hand, 500 watts are not exactly wimpy. The Shadow comes with a wooden frame grille. I guess the plastic ones don't hold up in wind tunnels.
The rear panel of the Shadow has a very familiar look (photo below). Except for the name Carver, it is identical to the Sunfire layout. Line-level inputs and outputs are gold-plated RCA jacks, and the speaker binding posts are gold-plated too. My oh my, we have come a long way from the old spring clips.

The level controls are flexible, having volume, crossover, and variable phase. Well marked and easy to read. My kind of panel. The AC is grounded and uses detached power cables.
Unlike Sunfire Subwoofers, the Shadow does not have a passive radiator.
The Sound
Although the Shadow is about the same price as the Sunfire Subwoofer Junior that I just reviewed, the Shadow is more powerful. For example, while the Sunfire Junior could put out 105 dB maximum at 31.5 Hz, the Shadow delivered 108 dB at that frequency (both measured at 1 meter, with the subwoofers 1 meter from a rear wall). 3 dB may not appear to be very much, but it is the equivalent of doubling an amplifier's output power. This is significant. Why the difference? Well, they both use similar technology, but the Shadow has a 10" driver, while the Junior has a 7".  Even though the Junior has a 1,500 watt amplifier, that smaller driver and smaller box make a huge difference in what the sub can deliver. That is probably why no one before Bob Carver ever made such small subs. Now they are commonplace with the development of digital switching amplifiers that can be small yet powerful and efficient (and not horrendously expensive either).
The frequency (room) response chart, shown below, indicates that the Shadow rolls off quickly below 31.5 Hz. The rise at 20 Hz is due to strong harmonics. At 25 Hz, however, it sounded quite clean. The magnetic field created by the Shadow being driven hard caused me to have to degauss my computer monitor, which was nearby, after the tests. If I have to start testing products in steel bank vaults with my computer outside, I think I will switch hobbies.

I used the Shadow in our reference home theater lab, with a Theta Casablanca II, Theta Dreadnaught Power Amplifier, and Cinepro Power Amplifier. Speakers were Krix and Threshold Electrostatics. Cables were Nordost and BetterCables.
The Shadow can kick tail with the best of them. It won't compete with an 18" subwoofer, but for its size, it is very good. I was particularly impressed with the cleanliness down to 25 Hz. That is hard to do for any subwoofer. At average listening levels, the Shadow does not sound all that different from the big expensive guys.
We tried all our reference DVDs with the Shadow, including the pod race from "Star Wars: Episode I", "True Lies", "Pearl Harbor", and "The Matrix". All the thuds, thumps, and kabooms were there where they should be, and nothing seemed to be missing. A flat response to 15 Hz is nice if you are listening to concert pipe organ CDs, but not much is down there in movie sound tracks (in terms of percentage of the total sound track). I had to yawn to pop my ears after all that. Subwoofers sure have improved over the past few years. A short while ago, a subwoofer like this, at such a low price, and so small, did not exist. It will go anywhere, and play just about anything. I only have one complaint: I have to return the review unit.
Conclusion
The review is short because Bob's technology is well established. Rather than wallowing in verbosity, I cut to the chase. The bugs are out and the quality is in. The Carver Knight Shadow is a solid, well built, high performing product. For under $1,000, this sub is on the short list.

- John E. Johnson, Jr. -
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发表于 2008-10-31 21:05 | 显示全部楼层
终于买了一个卡維500,折腾了3天呀
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我也来说几句吧,我贴的这个是卡维的10寸炮,应该是与骄阳还是同门师兄时的产品,骄阳有一款产品与这个是一模一样的。后来卡维给金凤凰收购,改名为卡维数码,生产的第一批产品在美国CES 2005电子大展发布后,还没正式上市就倒闭,你们拿到的这些产品,估计就是这批,我看商家的炮内部线路板的图片生产日期也是2005年,商家手上还同期生产的功放,那就一定错不了。
   这是个好炮,估计原价不菲,要不拿到产品的人也不会欢喜若狂了,这种心态可以理解,我看不会是枪手。
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发表于 2008-10-31 22:57 | 显示全部楼层
也是500的用家,十一在北京家电老吴处买的。关于量感也是个人理解不同。我的功放是天龙1804,攻放低音+9,音量-15,接lef口,开到11点半低音已经很强劲。听音面积30平方,加上餐厅和门厅将近50了。下潜也很低。为了和主箱更好的衔接,将主箱和中置设成了large。
鹰击长空,鱼翔浅底,万类霜天竞自由。怅寥廓,问苍茫大地,谁主沉浮?
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发表于 2008-10-31 23:42 | 显示全部楼层
楼上的牛,功放低音居然可以打到+9DB,很猛。
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