听过朗泉的EVO CD机的交流一下。

向我开炮

新audiolabo近八千大元，射程不够。君子行星2000国内无货。解晰力我觉得还是可以的，至少比我的马兰士要好很多。雅骏的CD73我也听了很，不过我觉得有点飘，还是没有它的成像结实。层次感和动态上我还是非常满意的。我前天曾发了个听感上的贴子，但很无耐，里面除了讨论政治的就是3C的，根本没有讨论声音的回复，更有甚者说我是枪手，呵呵，这个罪名我可背不起，一气之下我自已删了。

kag

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原帖由 向我开炮 于 2006-6-14 11:45 发表
新audiolabo近八千大元，射程不够。君子行星2000国内无货。解晰力我觉得还是可以的，至少比我的马兰士要好很多。雅骏的CD73我也听了很，不过我觉得有点飘，还是没有它的成像结实。层次感和动态上我还是非常满意的 ...

原来如此啊!我感觉论坛就应该是各抒己见嘛!不要动不动就删帖,这样容易产生误会。

yiiiiu

炮版别气了,这个EVO内部的做功实在跟以前CREEK的内部风格完全不一样,基本可以肯定是国内OEM的,也怪不得引来那么多人指责

mopchb

我也在关注这个EVO CD机, 前段时间本打算出手它来升级我的A8S, 后来想想对这个机子不很了解, 也不知它与我的系统能否很好地搭配, 所以就停手了,先听听大家的听评和见解在说.

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原帖由 yiiiiu 于 2006-6-14 12:16 发表
炮版别气了,这个EVO内部的做功实在跟以前CREEK的内部风格完全不一样,基本可以肯定是国内OEM的,也怪不得引来那么多人指责

国内代工没有什么不好，连奔驰宝马都在国内代工，那音响又有什么呢，器材的关键在于设计而不是产地。我是很BS国人设计的国货的，原因很多，不方便多说。因为我的一个朋友就是柴尔的设计师。他亲自告诉我，国内贴牌的产品有很多，NAD、剑桥、音乐传真……但设计图纸是人家的，你想做成中国的品牌，人家不同意。于是中国人就照猫画虎，外观、用料几乎一模一样，就是抓不住老外的精髓。

slowman

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炮版有没有听过美丽安Z110？

和EVO比较，怎样？

mopchb

我也关注.

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原帖由 slowman 于 2006-6-14 12:59 发表
炮版有没有听过美丽安Z110？

和EVO比较，怎样？

早些时候听过T系的那款CD机，觉得细节方面缺少点东西，有点干。于是只买了MYRYAD T40的功放和MARANTZ 17DA。
z110没听过俺不好讲，不过我也问过别人，他们说这个EVO要比Z110好很多，但是肯定不如美丽安的MCD200。

老狼

炮版我绝对没有针对你的意思。
只是昨天写了一大堆“支持”的话，一回车，“...原贴”已经删除。
另外，creek的新CDPLAYER是100%国人设计，creek认可（不认可又如何？关键质量好就OK了），为什么国人设计就不可以搬到桌面来呢？！
这年头讲的是操作，所谓HIFI CDplayer除中国外，谁还做呀，所以，机会难得，做了老外的生意，我们自己的技术也提高了，何乐而不为呢。
creek并无CDplayer设计能力，早年是用daisy的产品，后来用国产dvdrom，现在则用国产cdplayer，这是不争的事实。

yyy9

原帖由 向我开炮 于 2006-6-14 11:45 发表
新audiolabo近八千大元，射程不够。君子行星2000国内无货。解晰力我觉得还是可以的，至少比我的马兰士要好很多。雅骏的CD73我也听了很，不过我觉得有点飘，还是没有它的成像结实。层次感和动态上我还是非常满意的 ...

幸亏看了那个贴,讨论CCC认证也属于正常讨论,至于说"枪手"的贴,用不着理会,相信看贴的自有判断力!
希望把那个贴重新恢复.

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原帖由 老狼 于 2006-6-14 14:33 发表
炮版我绝对没有针对你的意思。
只是昨天写了一大堆“支持”的话，一回车，“...原贴”已经删除。
另外，creek的新CDPLAYER是100%国人设计，creek认可（不认可又如何？关键质量好就OK了），为什么国人设计就不可 ...

我在那个贴子也说了，买CREEK并非是听过之后才买的，只因为信任CREEK的品牌，在面版上只标有“designed in the
England（英国设计）,我相信如果不是符朗泉的要求，朗泉是不会随随便便就找个厂家贴上自已的牌子销往世界各地的。不知道您可否提供一下是哪家的产品和原型机？我们也好对它的有更深的了解。
不管是哪里产的，声音做的真的很漂亮，我觉得至少比斯巴克的CD17声音要好，细节更要丰富。

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原帖由 向我开炮 于 2006-6-14 16:07 发表




我在那个贴子也说了，买CREEK并非是听过之后才买的，只因为信任CREEK的品牌，在面版上只标有“designed in the
England（英国设计）,我相信如果不是符朗泉的要求，朗泉是不会随随便便就找个厂家贴上自 ...

只要能好声不必管它是谁做，那怕是DIY！我听过对此机的声音感觉确实不错。[s:14]

wanggang

个人猜测，和前一阵的onix cd3一样性质都是国内OEM的作品，而且多半是出自原创和山灵之手。物有所值，自己喜欢，就好。

申士宝

[quote]原帖由 slowman 于 2006-6-14 12:59 发表
炮版有没有听过美丽安Z110？
和EVO比较，怎样？ [/quot


我对比过这两台机子,EVO要柔些,110的低频量感,冲击力,解析力都好过EVO.最后我选了110!

向我开炮

哪位E语好的翻译下？
http://www.creekaudio.com/main_product.asp?prolook=evo_cd#Scene_2
The Evo CD player uses a Philips VAM1201 laser assembly and low profile loader.

This transport is different to the short-loader previously used by Creek in its CD43mk2, CD50 and CD53. However, the laser and chipset are the same. The short-loader transport became obsolete; hence the switch to alternatives, such as the ATAPI drive used in the more expensive Classic and Destiny CD players.

Servo control and decoder functions are performed by a Philips chip set. Custom software controls these functions and also interfaces with user functions such as display, function buttons and remote control.

The Evo uses a single high current C core mains transformer fed from the mains via a custom designed common mode filter. To allow it to be easily used in different countries, this CD player uses an external voltage selector.

To stabilise and isolate the voltages to the various analogue and digital circuits the Evo uses no less than eight voltage regulators. Digital and analogue supplies are kept separate and the master clock uses its own supply.

One of the most important parts of a good sounding CD player is the master clock. The Evo has been designed to use a low jitter oscillator module that clocks the data from the drive to the D to A converter and also clocks the microcontroller with the same frequency. This is done to avoid the internal interference that would cause sonic performance reductions if run at a different and asynchronous frequency.

The data from the decoder is re-clocked to provide a low jitter signal to a Burr-Brown PCM 1738, DAC IC, which is capable of 24 bit/192kHz operation. However, Creek Audio does not up-sample the data as we do not believe there is performance advantage unless done correctly. The Evo CD is an entry level product and therefore its price cannot support the level of circuitry required to perform up-sampling correctly.

Following the D to A conversion, the Evo uses four high grade Burr-Brown OPA604 op-amps to sum the balanced output from the DAC and to convert the output current into a voltage.

Analogue filtering is required to the signal to eliminate digital artefacts. This needs to be buffered from the output sockets, so that external equipment does not change the filter shape and response. As it also exits the D to A converter in the reverse phase, the Evo uses two dual OPA2134 op-amps to both buffer the signal and reverse the phase prior to the output sockets. A relay is used at the output to mute the signal to ground when required.

The Evo operates conventionally with buttons for Play and Pause, Stop, Open and Close, Track forward and backward and power On/off.

A visual indication of its status is displayed on a large blue Vacuum Fluorescent Display (VFD). The display brightness can be altered from the Evo remote control handset.

Gold plated, solid metal, analogue and co-axial digital output sockets have been chosen to provide a good connection and appearance for a product at its price point. Optical digital output is also available via a standard TOSLINK connector.

Mains connection is via a standard, fused, IEC chassis plug. A high quality power cord, with suitable mains plug for the country of use is supplied.

The Evo has a dedicated remote control handset, which currently operates both the integrated amplifier and CD player. Evo uses different codes to other Creek products. Therefore it cannot be used with Classic or Destiny, nor can the alternate Creek remote handsets, ARC 53, SRC 1 or SRC 2 be used with Evo. However it has all the features you would expect, including an ability to dim the brightness of the display.

The controls are intuitive and the remote is packaged with every product.