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(MADE IN 洋国),其实90%是中国制造后贴洋牌

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实话说现在发往中国的新货90%是CKD散件组装或干脆全部中国制造后面打上(MADE IN 洋人),
光本人所在的浙江宁波市就有贴世界各地的高级音响品牌许多(宁波音王电子,向阳集团等),贴牌列入BOSS JBL等等。
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实话说国货中高档的不但物美,而且价廉,据了解厂家买个芯片货喇叭单元,便宜的几十块,贵的才几百块而已,其实国货功放如钟神,德颂,艺术家等等,喇叭箱如博良,美之声等等,CD机如原创,欧博等等的中高档产品都是顶呱呱的,太多的老外到中国CKD组装然后干脆全CHINA产,后面打上好像NIKE ADIDAS等等伎俩
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有种成本叫R&D   

The phrase research and development (also R and D or, more often, R&D), according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, refers to "creative work undertaken on a systematic basis in order to increase the stock of knowledge, including knowledge of man, culture and society, and the use of this stock of knowledge to devise new applications

R&D
New product design and development is more often than not a crucial factor in the survival of a company. In an industry that is fast changing, firms must continually revise their design and range of products. This is necessary due to continuous technology change and development as well as other competitors and the changing preference of customers. A system driven by marketing is one that puts the customer needs first, and only produces goods that are known to sell. Market research is carried out, which establishes what is needed. If the development is technology driven then it is a matter of selling what it is possible to make. The product range is developed so that production processes are as efficient as possible and the products are technically superior, hence possessing a natural advantage in the market place.

R&D has a special economic significance apart from its conventional association with scientific and technological development. R&D investment generally reflects a government's or organization's willingness to forgo current operations or profit to improve future performance or returns, and its abilities to conduct research and development.

In 2006, the world's four largest spenders of R&D were the United States (US$343 billion), the EU (US$231 billion), China (US$136 billion), and Japan (US$130 billion). In terms of percentage of GDP, the order of these spenders for 2006 was China (US$115 billion of US$2,668 billion GDP), Japan, United States, EU with approximate percentages of 4.3, 3.2, 2.6, and 1.8 respectively. The top spenders in terms of percentage of GDP were China, Sweden, Finland, Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, Iceland, United States, followed by 9 other countries, and then the EU. [2]

In general, R&D activities are conducted by specialized units or centers belonging to companies, universities and state agencies. In the context of commerce, "research and development" normally refers to future-oriented, longer-term activities in science or technology, using similar techniques to scientific research without predetermined outcomes and with broad forecasts of commercial yield.

Statistics on organizations devoted to "R&D" may express the state of an industry, the degree of competition or the lure of progress. Some common measures include: budgets, numbers of patents or on rates of peer-reviewed publications.

Bank ratios are one of the best measures, because they are continuously maintained, public and reflect risk.

In the U.S., a typical ratio of research and development for an industrial company is about 3.5% of revenues. A high technology company such as a computer manufacturer might spend 7%. Although Allergan (a biotech company) tops the spending table 43.4% investment, anything over 15% is remarkable and usually gains a reputation for being a high technology company. Companies in this category include pharmaceutical companies such as Merck & Co. (14.1%) or Novartis (15.1%), and engineering companies like Ericsson (24.9%).[3]

Such companies are often seen as poor credit risks because their spending ratios are so unusual.

Generally such firms prosper only in markets whose customers have extreme needs, such as medicine, scientific instruments, safety-critical mechanisms (aircraft) or high technology military armaments. The extreme needs justify the high risk of failure and consequently high gross margins from 60% to 90% of revenues. That is, gross profits will be as much as 90% of the sales cost, with manufacturing costing only 10% of the product price, because so many individual projects yield no exploitable product. Most industrial companies get only 40% revenues.

On a technical level, high tech organisations explore ways to re-purpose and repackage advanced technologies as a way of amortizing the high overhead. They often reuse advanced manufacturing processes, expensive safety certifications, specialized embedded software, computer-aided design software, electronic designs and mechanical subsystems.
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洋品牌的研发还是在国外的。

LZ有时间不妨看看郎咸平的6+1理论。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-14 00:41 | 显示全部楼层
郎的理论是没错,错的是老外的淘汰货已经比不上我们十年卧薪尝胆的水平,只要中国进步的民营企业生产的都必定会更加优秀。其中个理我们肯定会明白的
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原帖由 zhjnbchina 于 2009-6-14 00:10 发表
实话说国货中高档的不但物美,而且价廉,据了解厂家买个芯片货喇叭单元,便宜的几十块,贵的才几百块而已,其实国货功放如钟神,德颂,艺术家等等,喇叭箱如博良,美之声等等,CD机如原创,欧博等等的中高档产品都是 ...


的确如此,要支持[s:20]
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原帖由 wbjia 于 2009-6-14 00:21 发表
洋品牌的研发还是在国外的。

LZ有时间不妨看看郎咸平的6+1理论。









你懂得什么,别瞎扯了
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总有一些别有用心的人,试图把“国外掌握核心技术”和“国外小作坊掌握核心技术”两个概念混淆在一起。

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你们是真懂还是装懂啊?反正我是不懂
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原帖由 zhjnbchina 于 2009-6-14 00:10 发表
实话说国货中高档的不但物美,而且价廉,据了解厂家买个芯片货喇叭单元,便宜的几十块,贵的才几百块而已,其实国货功放如钟神,德颂,艺术家等等,喇叭箱如博良,美之声等等,CD机如原创,欧博等等的中高档产品都是 ...


有道理,认同.:victory:
只要有慧眼,国货肯定有好东西(不清楚?那买国产名牌好了,虽然也有机会中招,但机率小且成本也低啊[s:97] );
国外东西好不好?
有一点要明白:进口货能进到国内市场,基本质量等都不错.为什么这样说?进不来中国市场的外国货更多.[s:14]
不过,有的烧友,就能为10%的提升,支付200%的成本.这是需求更高的缘故了.[s:18]
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原帖由 zhjnbchina 于 2009-6-14 00:03 发表
实话说现在发往中国的新货90%是CKD散件组装或干脆全部中国制造后面打上(MADE IN 洋人),
光本人所在的浙江宁波市就有贴世界各地的高级音响品牌许多(宁波音王电子,向阳集团等),贴牌列入BOSS JBL等等。


boss做衣服,bose做音响[s:68]
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原帖由 wbjia 于 2009-6-14 00:19 发表
有种成本叫R&D   

The phrase research and development (also R and D or, more often, R&D), according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, refers to "creative work undertaken ...


hifi里面还有研发???
别忽悠人了,几十年都没变过的东西了!
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原帖由 jimbim 于 2009-6-14 05:03 发表


hifi里面还有研发???
别忽悠人了,几十年都没变过的东西了!
惠威不是出了Trinity 6同轴喇叭吗?
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中国是世界的加工厂[s:18] ,中低端的东西如果不在中国生产,那他就离关门不远了[s:14] [s:41] 。一日经过一电视制造厂,看见一货车,满车液晶电视,有七八个牌子,全是外国品牌,大都不认识。只认识一个牌子TEAC。[s:14]
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原帖由 Livepool 于 2009-6-14 01:49 发表
音响这东西除了核心零部件,没有什么其他大的科技含量了。国外作坊照样也是没有能力研发核心零部件的



说得很对,研发比较多的是较大的企业。而且是利润较高的企业,或纯粹融资做研发的企业。[s:20] [s:20] [s:20] [s:20] [s:20]
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