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[碟机] 旗舰PK,对denon 3800 和先锋09FD的对比评价(转)

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发表于 2009-5-11 03:10 | 显示全部楼层
8k影音专家 多珀doopoo
再看这个Oppo BDP 83 VS “ big 3"的评论:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16049131#post16049131

As many know I have had the Oppo sincenearly day one last year. It has been a fun journey helping develop aplayer from start to finish. I would like to thank Oppo for allowing methe privilege to participate. I am going to post "my take" on myimpressions of the BDP 83 unit. I will be as brief as possible and tryto get right to the point. To save you from more suspense I will justcome right out and say as of today's date the Oppo Blu ray player isthe king of the $1000 and under market. It also comes very close to theBig 3 and quite honestly it is again like splitting hairs picking aplayer these days. I am being asked by many to finally post my thoughtsand believe me when I say it is a very hard decision picking whichplayer is the best. Actually, I can't pick which player is the best foreverybody. What I can do is help assist in picking a player to best fityour needs and your budget. Let me get started...

What I really like about the Oppo...The menu is very simple. Pickingoptions from color space selections to doing a firmware check is aseasy as it gets. I also really like being able to pick a "deep" colorbit (30 or 36) so that way you know you have it activated. No guessingor wondering. The effects of activating them though have been largelydebated here at AVS. I am not looking to start another one but I willjust say I like this feature being in the menu. I also really like the"tweak-ability" this player brings to the table. Just by checking outthe manual you will see they have even included Detail and Edgeenhancements. Those settings remind me exactly what I get from the EdgeVP. Speaking of the menu I also like the vast amount of options thereare for the audio side to. Being able to pick everything sure takes thewondering out of setting up a player. I wish other manufacturers wouldmake it this easy. So how well do all these settings actually do withreal world video and audio...?

I can say the Oppo Blu ray unit will not leave anyone out theredisappointed. It is the real deal and will rival all the high endplayers that are on the market today. I will also say that with Oppobeing able to achieve the performance they have at this price level theother companies will have to reconsider their pricing. The pic Q isexcellent. And yes, 1080p/24 is on par with the other players. Theaudio is also impressive. I can say again (in case you missed my firstparagraph) the Oppo BDP-83 is the absolute king of the under $1000market. How does it compare to the Big 3?

In doing many comparisons with the Big 3 (Denon 3800, Sony S5000ES& Pioneer 09FD) the Oppo was very close. It rivaled them which tome alone is the biggest compliment I can give the Oppo Blu ray player.Especially when you consider the price differences! Is it betterthough? If money were no object which would I pick? I am taking thatquestion and replacing it with a new absolute question... If I were onan island and I just happened to have a PJ, Pre/Pro, AMP, speakers andsubwoofer- not to mention a bed sheet hanging between two palm trees(let alone electricity) which ONE player would I want? Well the Opposure does weigh less so it would be easier to carry around. Of course having dual HDMI outs (like the 09FD) does make a set up moreflexible but I won't hold that against the Oppo. If I had a ton of SDdvds and just a few Blu ray titles then I would have to pick the 09FDsince it is still the best I have seen with SD dvd upconversion. It isnot a night and day difference though. Performance is close but thedifference is noticable. For those who love my percentages -5.5% to7.5%- better. I plan to post another mini take when the final firmware hits for theOppo's main release. So it may not be fair at the current moment topick one. Some could say the same against the Pioneer since for thegeneral Public it currently does not decode DTS-HD Master. It soon willfor everybody. I have purposely waited to post "my take" on the Opposince with each new firmware it seems to improve even more. I amfinally giving into the pressure of emails and PMs asking me to saysomething. So how about Blu ray performance? At 1080p/24 they are all very close.Just having to go back and forth a few scenes is a HUGE compliment tothe Oppo against the 2k players. The biggest difference is depth ofimage (TheBland was right! )but that does not make them night and day. I want everyone tounderstand that just because I may not pick the Oppo as my starter asof today does not mean I consider it any less a player. In fact it isquite the opposite. Actually for those keeping score in the load timesstat the Oppo is the absolute king of all stand alones. Only slightlybested by the PS3. So if you are one of those inpatient folks then thismay be the player for you. I meant it when I mentioned I would try andhelp people pick the best player for them either by needs or budget! As for audio, without getting in deep I will say it does a very goodjob. The build Q is not as stout as the 3800, S5000ES or 09FD but it ishard to hear the differences. Still though, with blind testing (earsincluded) the other units may have a slight advantage. Again though, itis like splitting hairs. The remote control is simple and lights up.The buttons are not to close or to small. It is a decent size and doesnot feel like it is going to fall apart in your hand...

Conclusion... So to sum up again my thoughts. The BDP-83 is going to bea strong force to deal with. Not only for sub 1k players but also forthe Big 3. The BDP-83 is a true Universal Blu ray player. The onlything it doesn't seem to play is HD DVDs! The company who should be most concerned is Denon and their new MoneyMonster player hitting soon. If you think the differences are slightagainst the 2k players just wait and see how slight they could beagainst their $4500 (unless it has gone up since yesterday ) beast! At that price I consider the Pioneer 09FD a bargain! If you are on the fence and have the Oppo-rtunity (I like that) to getone you should definitely try one out. If you believe in pounds versusperformance and aren't worried about saving extra coin for movies oranother area that needs an upgrade then you could splurge for one ofthe big 3 or the new Denon Money Monster. Either way know this- TheOppo BDP-83 is a great player and deserves the hype.

What's next?
I am planning to do an extensive comparison bewteen the Oppo BDP-83CHT and the Big 3...

After that?
You may have guessed it. I will attempt to compare the Oppo, 09FD,S5000ES and new Denon! Just like before only now with a few new twists.

After that- after that?
Probably take a hiatus!!!
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                                HIGHER DEFINITION-ENJOY!
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For my Reviews & Takes, Screenshots, theater pics and more go to:
http://www.joerodhometheater.com/about.html

谁来给说说?OPPO真的这么好?
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呵呵,继续观望中。。。
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不超过¥5000的话,买哪台都行! 比个啥子哦[s:30]
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